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- AUTHOR
-
- Marla Belzowski, 30 March 1992.
-
- DESCRIPTION
-
- (exerpts from the Collie Club of America Standard.)
-
- General Character -- The collie is a lithe, strong, responsive, active
- dogs, carrying no useless timber, standing naturally straight and
- firm. The deep, moderately wide chest shows strength, the sloping
- shoulders and well-bend hocks indicate speed and grace, and the face
- shows high intelligence. The collies presents an impressive, proud
- picture of true balance. In general, no part of a collies seems out
- of proportion to any other part.
-
- The head properties are of great importance. When looking at a collie
- the size of the dog's head is inclined to lightness and should never
- appear massive. Both in front and profile view the head bears a
- general resemblance to a well-blunted lean wedge, being smooth and
- clean in outline and nicely balanced in proportion. On the sides it
- tapers gradually and smoothly from the ears to the end of the black
- nose, without being flared out in backskull ("cheeky") or pinched in
- muzzle ("snipy"). In profile view the top of the backskull and top of
- the muzzle lie in two approximately parallel straight planes of equal
- length, divided by a very slight but perceptable stop or break. A
- mid-point between the inside corners of the eyes (which is the center
- of a correctly placed stop) is the center of balance in length of
- head. The end of the smooth, well-rounded muzzle is blunt but not
- square. The underjaw is strong, clean-cut and the depth of skull from
- the brow to the under part of the jaw is not excessive. The teeth are
- of good size, meeting in a sissors bite. Overshot or undershot jaws
- are undesirable, and penalized. There is a very slight prominence of
- the eyebrows. The backskull is flat, without receding either
- laterally or backwards and the occipital bone is not highly peaked.
- Because of the importance of the head characteristics, prominent head
- faults are very severly penalized.
-
- Eyes should be almond-shaped, of medium size and should never appear
- to be large or prominent. The color is dark and the eye doesn't show
- a yellow ring or have a sufficiently prominent haw to affect the dog's
- expression. In blue-merles, dark eyes are preferable but either or
- both eyes may be merle or china in color without specific penalty.
- The eyes should give a "sweet" expression. Eye faults are heavily
- penalized.
-
- Ears are in proportion to the size of the head and, if they are
- carried properly and unquestionably "break" naturally, are seldom too
- small. When in repose the ears are folded lengthwise and thrown back
- into the frill. On the alert they are drawn well up on the backskull
- and are carried about three-quarters erect, with about one-fourth of
- the ear tipping or "breaking" forwards. A dog with pricked ears or
- low ears cannot show true expression and is penalized accordingly.
-
- Neck is firm, clean, muscular, sinewy and heavily frilled. It is
- fairly long, carried upright with a slight arch at the nape and
- imparts a proud, upstanding appearance showing off the frill.
-
- Body is firm, hard and muscular, a trifle long in proportion to the
- height. The ribs are well-rounded behind the well-sloped shoulders
- and the chest is deep extending to the elbows. The back is strong and
- level, supported by powerful hips and thighs and the croup is sloped
- to give a well-rounded finish. The loin is powerful and slightly
- arched.
-
- Legs are strong and muscular with a fair amount of bone. Narrow and
- wide placement is penalized. A cowhocked or straight stifle is
- penalized. The feet are small and oval shaped.
-
- The tail is moderately long, reaching to the hock, with an upward
- swirl at the tip.
-
- Coat for a Rough collie is well-fitting and abundant except on the
- head and legs. The outer coat is harsh to the touch and the under
- coat is soft and furry and so close together that it is difficult to
- see the skin. The coat is very abundant on the mane and frill. The
- face or mask is smooth. The legs are well feathered at the back but
- smooth and clean on the front of the legs. The tail is long and
- bushy. The Smooth collie has a harsh, dense, flat coat of good
- texture with and abundance of undercoat.
-
- Color -- There are four recognized colors "Sable and White",
- "Tri-color", "Blue Merle" and "White". There is no prefernce amoung
- them for show purposes. "Sable and White" is predominately sable (a
- fawn sable color of varying shades from light gold to dark mahogany)
- with white markings usually on the chest, neck, legs, feet and the tip
- of the tail. A blaze may appear on the forface or backskull or both.
- The "Tri-color" is predominantly black carrying white markings as in
- the "Sable and White" and has tan shadings on and about the head and
- legs. The "Blue Merle" is a mottled or "marbled" color predominately
- blue-grey and black with white markings as in the "Sable and White"
- and usually has tan shadings as in the "Tri-color". The "White" is
- predominately white, preferably with sable, tri-color or blue-marle
- markings. The white markings are not a factor in judging the collie
- other than individual preferences.
-
- Size: Dogs are from 24 to 26 inches at the shoulder and weigh 60 to
- 75 lbs. Bitches are from 22 to 24 inches at the shoulder and weigh
- 50 to 65 lbs. Over or undersized dogs are penalized.
-
- Expression: Is one of the most important points in evaluating the
- collie. It is a combination of head, eye, and ear expressions.
-
- RECOGNIZED
-
- American Kennel Club (Rough and Smooth collie)
- United Kennel Club (Scotch Collie)
- Kennel Club of Great Britain (Scotch Collie)
- Canadian Kennel Club
- Japanese Kennel Club
- and many other kennel clubs
-
- HISTORY
-
- Most believe the Collie evolved in the highlands of Scotland and
- Northern England. Some claim that the Collies ancestors were brought
- to the British Isles by Roman concuerors in the middle of the first
- century, A.D. But it is also known that the earlist invaders, the
- Stone Age nomads also brought dogs with them to what is now Southern
- England. From these decendants came a hardy, quick-witted dog that
- was needed to handle sheep, cattle, goats, and pigs, and they were
- undoubtedly used for hunting along with their herding duties. English
- dogs were highly prised in Italy in the 11th century. The growth of
- the wool industry in the Middle ages was aided along by dogs known as
- the ban dog and the cur in 15th and 16th century England. Not until
- about the 18th century did the breeding of domestic animals begin.
- The rough Collie was virtually unknown in London as late as 1860,
- while a bob-tailed smooth sheep dog was more common to that area. The
- rough Collie came down from Scotland and the border countries to
- farmer's markets at Birmingham, following the development of the
- railroads. The Collie most likely made his show ring debut in
- December, 1860, at Birmingham, the third formal dog show at which
- conformation of individual animals was judged. They were most likely
- shown in the group classified "sheepdogs" with combined different
- strains of rough and smooth Collies, bob-tails, and beardies.
-
- None of the sheepdogs were very popular at this time. They were
- generally working dogs, without pedigrees, and they were more of a
- farmers dog. They were small, weighing 25 to 45 lbs, relatively short
- legged, long-backed, short necked, and had unsightly feet and legs.
- Many were cow-hocked, fiddle fronted, overangulated, with a wide
- variety of tails lengths including no-tails, bob-tails, half-tailed
- and long-tailed dogs all occurring in the same litter. They had much
- heavier heads and had terrier like eyes. The coats were various
- lengths from smooth to extremely long and frilled, in one black and
- white Scottish strain. The color was origionally black and white or
- black and tan, but sometimes grey, dull brown or mixed brindle sable
- in color.
-
- The Collie's popularity began with Queen Victoria (1837-1901), who
- fell in love with the breed on visits to her Scottish retreat. It was
- then that the lowly farmers dog was elevated to a state of canine
- aristocracy. It then became more fashionable to own a Collie and show
- entries rose.
-
- One of the most important Collies, a dog named Old Cockie, became
- recoginzed in 1868. All show Collies trace back to Old Cockie Through
- his sable and white grandson Charlemagne, whose pedigree shows the
- only two sables: Maude, his dam, and her sire, Old Cockie. Old Cockie
- live fourteen years as a cherished and pampered companion of Mr. James
- Bissell.
-
- CHARACTERISTICS AND TEMPERAMENT
-
- Collies are very family oriented dogs. They love children, they are
- very intelligent, quick learners, very sensitive, playful, and great
- outdoors dogs. Collies get along well with other pets. Collies
- however are not for everyone. The do require a lot of exercise to
- keep them happy and fit. Collies are very energetic and will become
- easily bored if left alone for extended periods. They are very good
- at finding things to do if they are bored, which will often include
- digging, barking and other general destructive behaviors.
-
- Collies should not be tied up or chained. Because they are a herding
- dog they are able to run up to 40 miles a day. It is preferable to
- have a large fenced yard or a large kennel area. Collie are also
- great athletes and can easliy jump a 4 or 5 foot fence when motivated
- to do so. A 6 foot fence is suggested for fencing off areas. Collies
- understand boundaries of yards well and it is advisable to walk a new
- puppy around the yard twice a day for the first week, and once a day
- for two following weeks to teach them the yard limits. Collies can
- become car chasers and it is advisable to stop this at the FIRST sign
- of car chasing activity.
-
- Collies make excellent obedience dogs. The require a soft touch when
- initally learning the exercise and a quick correction once they do
- understand but just refuse to do the exercise. Collies can become
- stubborn and unwilling to learn anything if too much correction is
- used. They are also bright enough to figure out ways to avoid doing
- exercises. In general they are very intelligent and very sensitive
- dogs. Collies also retain many of their inheirated herding abilities
- and make excellent working dogs. Smooth collies are occasionally used
- as assistance dogs for physically handi-capped people. Collies have
- also been known to be used as therapy dogs, Search and Rescue dogs,
- Avalanche Dogs, Water Rescue dogs, Drug-detection dogs, and Fire
- Rescue dogs. Collies have been decorated five times for Ken-L-Ration
- Hero Dogs.
-
- Grooming is a neccessity for rough collies. Rough coats take some
- care. A good brushing one a week will take care of many mats and
- tangles and a bath every two months or so is ok. Smooths are much
- easier to care for. They have short hair like a shepherd, but still
- have the thick double coat. Smooths seem to shed a lot because the
- fur is more likely to fall out, where as in roughs, it is more likely
- to tangle up into hair balls. Collies shed about as much as any other
- dog. Their major hair loss is in the spring as the weather gets warm
- and in the fall as the new winter fur comes in. If you brush them out
- then, shedding shouldn't be a big problem. Large mats should be
- removed with thinning shears if they presist behind the ears, under
- the legs or around the neck. It is also advisable to remove the fur
- from the inner pads of the feet and the lower areas of the hock and
- pasterns. Those dogs with dew claws need them trimmed at least once a
- month.
-
- Collies live about 12 to 16 years on average. Males are a bit more
- rambunctous than females. Females are usually pretty reserved. Both
- are equally acceptable for children. All of the "Lassie's" were male
- collies. Females tend to have less coat than the males and are
- slightly smaller. Both are equally intelligent.
-
- Collies also "think" they are also great "lap" dogs. Get your collie
- puppy from a responsible breeder and you should not have any problems.
- Collies from pet stores and back yard breeders are notorious for eye
- and other problems. Get a guarantee of quality with your puppy and
- don't be offended by spay/neuter contracts for pet puppies (most pet
- puppies will have slight eye problems but are not serious for neutered
- pets). Pet puppies are about $250 - $400 and show dogs are usually
- $500 and up. You aren't getting a bargan at $150 or so, if the
- breeder doesn't check eyes.
-
-
- SPECIAL MEDICAL PROBLEMS
-
- Collies do have eye problems. 95% of the collies have been reported
- to have CEA, which is small deformities in the eye. Almost all of
- these deformities do not cause blindness and there are various
- severities of CEA (Collie Eye Anomaly). Most responsible breeders
- will know and check their puppies for the problem at a veterinary
- opthamoligist. There are some dogs that are "Normal eyed" which means
- they are not affected, but they may be carriers of the genes causing
- CEA. CERF -- Canine Eye Registration Foundation -- registers
- "Normal-eyed" dogs. If you just want a pet, a grade 1 or 2 CEA (and
- even a grade 3) are just fine. Grade 3 and over should never be bred.
- Grades 1 and 2 are still bred and shown, but breeders are making an
- effort to not breed any affected dog. Right now it is difficult to do
- with 95% affected dogs
-
- CEA (Collie Eye Anomaly) is the most common form of eye problem found
- in the collie, both rough and smooth variety. It is also found in the
- border collie, and the shetland sheepdog. It is believed to by
- controlled by a genetic cluster, or large group of genes, and thus, it
- is hard to control by breeding, and ranges in severity.
-
- There is no discrimination between sex, coat color, type of coat
- (rough or smooth), or presence of the merling gene. Usually both eyes
- are affected, but not necessarily to the same degree. Those dogs with
- minor anomaly make fine pets and usually do not loose their eyesight.
- Those that are more severly affected can loose their eyesight within a
- few years of diagnosis if the retina is detached by a blow to the head
- or else they will be born blind. These dogs usually do not make
- acceptable pets.
-
- Contrary to popular belief, breeding two mildly affected dogs will
- only result in affected puppies, ranging from severe to mild. No
- puppies from the mating will have "normal" eyes -- ( NOT affected to
- ANY degree with CEA). The only way to possibly get "normal-eyed"
- puppies is to breed a non-affected dog to another non-affected dog.
- Because the CEA is carried as recessive genes, a mating between two
- "normal-eyed" dogs can result in puppies with CEA ranging from mild to
- severe and "normal-eyed" CEA carriers.
-
- ONLY geneotypically "normal-eyed" dogs will give an entire litter of
- "normal-eyed" puppies and it is reasonable to assume that some
- of these will be carriers unless neither parents are carriers.
-
- PRA -- progressive retinal atrophy -- will result in blindness. It is
- pretty rare in the collie now, but is another thing to ask about.
-
- Collies have VERY low rates of hip dysplasia. Most breeders do not
- check or OFA their dogs. Collies and Boston Terriers are about equal
- in the number of hip dysplasia cases. It is still perferable to have
- the dogs checked before breeding.
-
- Collies are quite sensitive to heart-worm medication and some other
- harsh chemicals. Some tend to have skin problems. Hot spots are
- sometimes found in muggy summer months. They have also been known to
- have epilpsy.
-
- REFERENCES
-
- 1. Books:
-
- The New Collie
- by: The Collie Club of America
- Howell Book House Inc,
- 230 Park Ave
- New York, NY 10169
- copy right 1983
- (approx. $24 )
-
- The Collie: A Veterinary Reference for the Professional Breeder
- by: Dr. Sharon Lynn Vanderlip DVM
- Biotechnicl Veterinary Consultants
- P.O Box 327
- Cardiff by the Sea, CA 92007
- copy right 1984
- (approx. $34.50)
-
- Collie Concept
- by: Mrs. George H. "Bobbee" Roos
- P.O. Box 7027
- Alpine Publications, Inc.
- Loveland, CO 80537
- (approx. $29 )
-
- Collie Club of America Book of Champions, Vol. I (1884-1961) (CCA)
- Collie Club of America Book of Champions, Vol. II (1962-1976) (CCA)
-
- 2. Magazines:
-
- Collie Cues
- 6200 Bay View Ave.
- Richmond Heights, CA 94806
-
- Collie Review
- 8790 Applan Way
- Los Angeles, CA 90046
-
- 3. Breeders:
-
- Disclaimer: These breeders have been recommended in good faith by
- readers of rec.pets.dogs. However, you are still responsible for
- verifying that a particular breeder meets your needs to your
- satisfaction.
-
- Contact the Collie Club of America for breeder recommendations.
-
-
- 4. Clubs:
-
- Collie Club of America
- Mr. John Honig, Secretary
- 72 Flagg Street
- Worcester, MA 01602
- (educational materials available upon request)
-
- Collie Club of America Bulletin
- Editor: Shirley A. Schaffer
- 5735 South M-76
- Alger, MI 48610
- (non-member subscription $30/yr)
-